WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.529 --> 00:00:07.080 Matthew J Countryman: burning the midnight oil at both ends, or something. 2 00:00:10.920 --> 00:00:16.170 Matthew J Countryman: So um I don't have anything particular so let's just do updates and see where we are. 3 00:00:19.439 --> 00:00:19.740 Okay. 4 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:26.760 Stephen M Ward: um don't do we expect do we expect that to join us today. 5 00:00:29.070 --> 00:00:34.260 Wayne High: I don't believe that beth will be joining us because she had asked for on. 6 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:41.400 Wayne High: Good Friday as a vacation so she POPs in that would be an unexpected surprise. 7 00:00:41.700 --> 00:00:46.860 Stephen M Ward: BONUS Okay, I asked, because the data I have is. 8 00:00:48.450 --> 00:00:54.480 Stephen M Ward: I want to confirm with best but i'm from my class, you know have planned to have. 9 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:11.550 Stephen M Ward: Have any event, where they make presentations some form about the work they're doing, including what can contribute to the website, and so I want to confirm with beth with the date the time we have scheduled April 21 7pm. 10 00:01:12.990 --> 00:01:14.640 Stephen M Ward: So that's the last day of classes. 11 00:01:16.110 --> 00:01:20.100 Stephen M Ward: But so soon as I can, with beth out lights confirm that and then. 12 00:01:21.360 --> 00:01:22.140 Stephen M Ward: advertise it. 13 00:01:23.340 --> 00:01:23.640 Stephen M Ward: As. 14 00:01:24.990 --> 00:01:25.680 Stephen M Ward: well. 15 00:01:26.820 --> 00:01:35.880 Stephen M Ward: i'm sorry right I didn't but also want to see twice in this body would like to be have be evolved, or at least be aware of. 16 00:01:36.960 --> 00:01:37.380 Stephen M Ward: It. 17 00:01:40.350 --> 00:01:41.250 Matthew J Countryman: But all my calendar. 18 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:50.460 Wayne High: I say a few pencil it in it's a very good pencil Stephen because beth has talked about participating. 19 00:01:51.210 --> 00:02:03.300 Stephen M Ward: Right so that's so that's an added together came up with the day and time I just I want to confirm with her that I that I, that is the correct one we identified i'm pretty sure it is, I need to confirm that with her Okay, I see yeah. 20 00:02:05.010 --> 00:02:10.860 Stephen M Ward: um but then wants to do what had to go ahead, go ahead and kind of advertise it or scheduling software. 21 00:02:18.720 --> 00:02:19.080 See. 22 00:02:21.210 --> 00:02:21.450 Arielle Chen: A. 23 00:02:22.650 --> 00:02:23.220 Matthew J Countryman: girl. 24 00:02:23.970 --> 00:02:38.340 Arielle Chen: i'm so for the events Helen and I work together, earlier this week to talk about how to be able to embed videos onto the website without slowing it down and we were able to do that through the Michigan website that we got from JESSICA. 25 00:02:39.720 --> 00:02:51.000 Arielle Chen: So the event with freedom is now available on the website under the events page, so if anyone wants to share, you can share it there and then, as we get more events will be able to upload it. 26 00:02:52.470 --> 00:02:54.900 Arielle Chen: To that website and embed it. 27 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:57.960 Matthew J Countryman: that's great news. 28 00:02:59.310 --> 00:03:01.110 Stephen M Ward: Yes, as a matter. 29 00:03:01.980 --> 00:03:04.740 Wayne High: i'm trying to share my screen, I hope you all can see it. 30 00:03:07.020 --> 00:03:08.280 Wayne High: This week i've been. 31 00:03:09.450 --> 00:03:20.130 Wayne High: Reaching around the campus looking at who can help us determine a long term storage solution, and these were some of the options that were available to us. 32 00:03:21.270 --> 00:03:22.590 Wayne High: amy Peters. 33 00:03:23.700 --> 00:03:25.770 Wayne High: Who heads up the research component i've been. 34 00:03:26.970 --> 00:03:31.290 Wayne High: i've tapped into her to utilize the expertise over there, so. 35 00:03:33.210 --> 00:03:50.460 Wayne High: we've even got some feedback from the library, so what you're looking at here is some of the storage options that we have now, when you look at this you don't see a whole lot of memory and that's what i'm engaging people with so i'll be looking to. 36 00:03:52.110 --> 00:03:54.960 Wayne High: engage Arielle and. 37 00:03:55.980 --> 00:04:00.630 Wayne High: Helen in this effort, because if you ask me, I know just enough to be dangerous. 38 00:04:01.830 --> 00:04:15.870 Wayne High: I know what I want in terms of size components i'm asking somewhere between 25 and 50 terabytes so that we have room to grow into as we move forward, and when you look at the matrix that's up on the screen. 39 00:04:17.340 --> 00:04:25.740 Wayne High: It seems like I can get one terabyte chunks but i'm going to ask for what I believe the project needs in order to continue to. 40 00:04:26.820 --> 00:04:34.860 Wayne High: process, the information we have, and yet leave room for growth, so I hope to have an update subsequent to. 41 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:56.340 Wayne High: hashing this out in the upcoming week and the library does have a Tuesday 330 meeting that i'm considering plugging into but I need to know, though the schedule if Helen and Arielle are available, if I can get on their schedule so more to follow on that, but. 42 00:04:57.780 --> 00:05:12.840 Wayne High: 25 to 50 terabytes is what i'm trying to get Ahold of so that we can Park, the information to a place where it's available for everyone and not have to worry about it being moved or deleted without notice. 43 00:05:16.140 --> 00:05:17.550 Wayne High: Well that's the update for me. 44 00:05:20.970 --> 00:05:21.480 Matthew J Countryman: Thank you. 45 00:05:25.650 --> 00:05:27.360 Matthew J Countryman: Does anybody is there any additional. 46 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:31.320 Matthew J Countryman: contributions on that topic, specifically at this. 47 00:05:31.350 --> 00:05:31.860 Matthew J Countryman: Point are we. 48 00:05:33.780 --> 00:05:34.620 Wayne High: Almost forgot. 49 00:05:35.820 --> 00:05:53.130 Wayne High: With ourselves assistance we weren't able to get a hold of nisha and look at the material that's out in the study abroad area so nisha may have already started putting dates and locations, as the file names, with some of that information that's out there. 50 00:05:56.250 --> 00:06:06.480 Wayne High: And I believe some of it may have been helpful to her as well, and she may have been snagging snapshots to us in her forthcoming manuscript. 51 00:06:10.110 --> 00:06:14.340 Wayne High: yeah that's all I have now that was Oh, by the way, if you would. 52 00:06:17.850 --> 00:06:32.340 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: that's great thanks when I also added in the folder that you created called study abroad and I created a folder for Deborah Robinson storing some of her materials so maybe we can use that study abroad folder as a general. 53 00:06:33.180 --> 00:06:42.540 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: kind of material for the study abroad project, so if it's Okay, maybe I could create a folder for nisha specifically and moves those videos in there. 54 00:06:46.320 --> 00:06:47.910 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: you're you're muted yeah. 55 00:06:51.090 --> 00:06:54.690 Wayne High: I don't think that's a problem we just need to make sure that. 56 00:06:56.070 --> 00:06:57.510 Wayne High: The link is. 57 00:06:57.540 --> 00:07:00.180 Wayne High: updated for new right that she has access to it. 58 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:01.200 Wayne High: goddess. 59 00:07:01.230 --> 00:07:06.270 Wayne High: Or we all may have some thoughts on that, though, because, like I said I know just enough to be dangerous. 60 00:07:07.710 --> 00:07:13.950 Arielle Chen: For nisha is currently shared on a folder that has her name on it currently if you move it. 61 00:07:14.370 --> 00:07:30.690 Arielle Chen: It should keep her on it, but if you have any issues, please let me know and the title can be changed as long as whoever needs to contribute is shared on that folder alone in case there's any sensitive material in our drive that we don't want other people to see us at the moment. 62 00:07:32.310 --> 00:07:49.470 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: Okay, I see I see so maybe yeah because i've been like i'm working on interview questions for the interview with Deborah and stuff so maybe I should make a separate general study abroad folder then and this one can be the one Whitney shots information. 63 00:07:50.220 --> 00:08:03.060 Arielle Chen: yeah because what we could do is have a main folder for all the study abroad and then each specific study abroad or person related to study abroad can have their own folder and then they can be shared on that specific order to be able to contribute materials. 64 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:04.620 Arielle Chen: At it like that. 65 00:08:05.370 --> 00:08:06.900 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: That makes sense okay cool. 66 00:08:08.250 --> 00:08:14.640 Arielle Chen: If you have any issues with setting up those folders or the tiered list, let me know i'm happy to meet up individually. 67 00:08:15.960 --> 00:08:16.470 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: Thanks. 68 00:08:18.300 --> 00:08:20.430 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: um yeah i'm. 69 00:08:21.690 --> 00:08:22.620 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: Sorry go ahead when. 70 00:08:22.950 --> 00:08:33.810 Wayne High: As you lay out everything, please know that there are a couple more of digital media files that I have that will need to that I will be looking for opportunities to. 71 00:08:34.920 --> 00:08:35.310 Wayne High: Get. 72 00:08:36.510 --> 00:08:39.840 Wayne High: transferred into digital format and I have at least. 73 00:08:41.760 --> 00:08:54.270 Wayne High: Seven to 10 more of those that I need to do so, you will have a lot to draw from as I, you know more people get their shots I can get the material in the hands of people that can do the work for us. 74 00:08:55.050 --> 00:08:56.460 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: Right okay great. 75 00:08:58.020 --> 00:09:09.600 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: i'm so delighted to find out when the Deborah Robinson thing just to confirm that the last one I are going to be interviewing her next Friday just before our usual meeting. 76 00:09:11.430 --> 00:09:11.730 yeah. 77 00:09:12.870 --> 00:09:14.760 Dolapo Raheemat Raji: um I also have a quick question. 78 00:09:17.520 --> 00:09:25.740 Dolapo Raheemat Raji: Alright, so hashing and I supposed to collaborate on the transcription but she said she doesn't have access to the folder I don't know that's. 79 00:09:28.620 --> 00:09:29.250 Matthew J Countryman: Actually. 80 00:09:34.800 --> 00:09:38.850 Arielle Chen: Our world double check and similar to the chat. 81 00:09:40.290 --> 00:09:41.040 Ashley Marie Hayes: Thank you. 82 00:09:41.340 --> 00:09:41.820 Thank you. 83 00:09:44.370 --> 00:09:54.420 Matthew J Countryman: So on this just one thought for those of you working on this to various study abroad issues um which is not related to the history is related to the President. 84 00:09:56.730 --> 00:09:57.780 Matthew J Countryman: We. 85 00:09:59.790 --> 00:10:08.130 Matthew J Countryman: have started having conversations Benedict and I, we did with nisha little bit about rethinking study abroad for the department. 86 00:10:09.780 --> 00:10:18.690 Matthew J Countryman: Partly well in response in large part to the fact of the universities or colleges policies on study abroad have somewhat changed over the over recent years. 87 00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:21.840 Matthew J Countryman: So if if you. 88 00:10:22.890 --> 00:10:25.980 Matthew J Countryman: were to see or think about some. 89 00:10:26.820 --> 00:10:32.220 Matthew J Countryman: Specific to DAS criteria, but what is study rotc program or, to be able to accomplish accomplish. 90 00:10:32.490 --> 00:10:33.330 encompass. 91 00:10:35.340 --> 00:10:46.020 Matthew J Countryman: That would be really actually really helpful to have the history to form the President conversation so whether it's through the interviews looking at nisha the interview with nation, the past some of the materials you're collecting. 92 00:10:47.700 --> 00:10:55.500 Matthew J Countryman: You know, with some point, maybe sort of early May or something we might revisit this question and and. 93 00:10:56.790 --> 00:10:59.340 Matthew J Countryman: You know, try to move just be helpful to have the input. 94 00:11:01.620 --> 00:11:03.000 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: Sure i'll keep that in mind. 95 00:11:07.470 --> 00:11:08.160 Matthew J Countryman: um. 96 00:11:09.330 --> 00:11:13.980 Matthew J Countryman: So I was because I have a quick two small well one one update um. 97 00:11:15.510 --> 00:11:19.890 Matthew J Countryman: We had a very good conversation beth and Helen and Ariel and I about. 98 00:11:21.780 --> 00:11:22.470 Matthew J Countryman: The. 99 00:11:26.970 --> 00:11:28.800 Matthew J Countryman: Some of the materials from the. 100 00:11:29.850 --> 00:11:37.260 Matthew J Countryman: That we have photographs from the from the basement the various material object collections and photo collections. 101 00:11:38.460 --> 00:11:39.060 Matthew J Countryman: and 102 00:11:40.950 --> 00:11:41.700 Matthew J Countryman: As you know. 103 00:11:44.220 --> 00:11:44.700 Matthew J Countryman: we're. 104 00:11:47.820 --> 00:12:01.770 Matthew J Countryman: engaged with comfort on some proposals for that, but so that will we're all right we're all excited about working with comfort on that and getting that information so that's that's the one update on that, but also on each individual culture. 105 00:12:05.430 --> 00:12:18.780 Matthew J Countryman: beth met with, I have a report from this with Kristen brand, who is the head of museum study the museum studies program and we're about to post. 106 00:12:19.620 --> 00:12:31.500 Matthew J Countryman: Their work willing to fund and we're going to post division for a Grad student to work this summer on a retrospective of the DAS gallery over time as a possible thing for the for the website. 107 00:12:33.090 --> 00:12:42.480 Matthew J Countryman: what's unresolved in that process is because i'm also in been engaged with competitions Ray silverman about his particular particular period of his work on the desk gallery. 108 00:12:42.900 --> 00:12:49.170 Matthew J Countryman: And he's interested in doing something for the website as well, whether that will end up being one thing or two things. 109 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:54.600 Matthew J Countryman: I don't know but I don't think it's um. 110 00:12:56.010 --> 00:13:10.230 Matthew J Countryman: I mean really comes down to what how Ray wants to position his involvement, whether he wants to collaborate with an intern from museum studies or whether he rather do his own thing and I, to my mind, both are good so it's we'll see um. 111 00:13:11.640 --> 00:13:15.480 Matthew J Countryman: Now the other piece of it just just as a heads up is in theory. 112 00:13:17.310 --> 00:13:24.450 Matthew J Countryman: either, but most likely the museum studies piece could include an actual exhibit in the desk gallery once we open back up. 113 00:13:26.550 --> 00:13:42.570 Matthew J Countryman: And so we're going to continue those conversations, but it seems obviously very appropriate to the 15th anniversary to actually have some kind of retrospective exhibit on the whole history of desk gallery, including potentially earlier than the desk gallery issues of. 114 00:13:45.060 --> 00:13:52.410 Matthew J Countryman: Exit exit exhibition and visual culture within the department right that goes back to her through our entire history, so all of that is churning and. 115 00:13:54.180 --> 00:13:55.830 Matthew J Countryman: still not specifically clear, but we have. 116 00:13:57.750 --> 00:14:04.230 Matthew J Countryman: We went from having nothing going on to having a lot going on in a very short period of time around those issues so that's that's very exciting. 117 00:14:05.460 --> 00:14:07.320 Matthew J Countryman: So hopefully have more on that. 118 00:14:08.910 --> 00:14:18.450 Matthew J Countryman: Well, I have more on the museum studies piece of it next week it'll take a little longer right right and are supposed to talk about two weeks down the road we'll have more more in both those things. 119 00:14:25.980 --> 00:14:28.500 Matthew J Countryman: guitar I was just a thumbs up okay. 120 00:14:29.580 --> 00:14:35.970 Helen Garbarino: Do you want to discuss the curation of the art section, as we build it out. 121 00:14:39.300 --> 00:14:43.890 Matthew J Countryman: um by our section you mean the piece is separate from the issues raised by for comfort. 122 00:14:44.460 --> 00:14:52.290 Helen Garbarino: yeah in our meeting we had discussed on because all of the collections went up by JESSICA, which is why I was lacking information. 123 00:14:52.740 --> 00:15:02.670 Helen Garbarino: So doing something that is more curated to make sure all the objects are appropriate, but we still have a landing page for our collections, while we work on the database side of things. 124 00:15:04.620 --> 00:15:06.060 Matthew J Countryman: Well, I so that's interesting. 125 00:15:08.730 --> 00:15:13.320 Matthew J Countryman: i'm interested to hear people's thoughts because, because in some ways, I think. 126 00:15:14.610 --> 00:15:20.820 Matthew J Countryman: Again, the long term answer to that question has to do with these two other with these desk gallery retrospectives, so this is really neat. 127 00:15:21.870 --> 00:15:29.190 Matthew J Countryman: meeting a medium term question right should particularly the I think the contemporary. 128 00:15:33.900 --> 00:15:42.930 Matthew J Countryman: Art work in our possession that Helen has done such great job of documenting and digitizing should that be visible on our website. 129 00:15:43.650 --> 00:15:45.780 Matthew J Countryman: with minimal minimal curation. 130 00:15:46.170 --> 00:15:51.420 Matthew J Countryman: Because we don't have the time or the expertise, while we work on the long term solution. 131 00:15:53.400 --> 00:15:57.660 Matthew J Countryman: So i'm interested in people's perspectives on it, I think that's a great a great question to ask. 132 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:08.280 Matthew J Countryman: don't jump on jump at once. 133 00:16:09.300 --> 00:16:13.020 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: just looking at the page again i'm posted it in the chat as well. 134 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:15.660 Stephen M Ward: How about in the course of. 135 00:16:17.640 --> 00:16:18.210 Stephen M Ward: um. 136 00:16:20.460 --> 00:16:27.990 Stephen M Ward: So, then, the next step, there is that the longer is just part of the longer term curation right that's where right now. 137 00:16:29.220 --> 00:16:38.250 Matthew J Countryman: yeah I mean you know, again, some of these things are still I mean I can't say for sure that everything in the collection will be part of these durations I mean that's the point um. 138 00:16:39.870 --> 00:16:42.390 Matthew J Countryman: And so there is a kind of I mean there's an archival. 139 00:16:43.950 --> 00:16:54.930 Matthew J Countryman: imperative if you were I mean to make visible, but we have to two people, even if it's not been curated right, I mean that's the do we give access to people have access to this material. 140 00:16:55.290 --> 00:16:55.830 Stephen M Ward: Right right. 141 00:16:56.010 --> 00:16:56.460 Matthew J Countryman: Now it's. 142 00:16:56.550 --> 00:16:59.850 Matthew J Countryman: there's not a curation of it that's that's very developed. 143 00:17:01.650 --> 00:17:02.250 Stephen M Ward: So. 144 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.080 Stephen M Ward: My thought, but i'm not. 145 00:17:09.900 --> 00:17:16.590 Stephen M Ward: i'm questioning for my thought was as and in the preliminary steps. 146 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:30.810 Stephen M Ward: If there are a few pieces that stand out as i'm have a combination of what a few pieces that have some visual or other, you know historic clear value. 147 00:17:32.190 --> 00:17:38.640 Stephen M Ward: Doing do not seem to be burdened with a need for much contextual occur curatorial. 148 00:17:40.890 --> 00:17:55.770 Stephen M Ward: No presence in, there are a few that need that and put them there this with a lines is humping like a sampling, this would not be the best language something to indicate this is a sampling of the larger work. 149 00:17:56.460 --> 00:18:11.250 Helen Garbarino: The curtis collection could be that because we had that's the most complete and it is something that we have in our physical space, so we could do that and show that we have this unique set of artwork but that's very curated and the public facing. 150 00:18:14.730 --> 00:18:19.440 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: Things that's a good idea and it's just looking through these cuz i'm some of them. 151 00:18:20.700 --> 00:18:27.840 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: To Matthews points as well about having an archive that people can look at, I wonder if it would be possible, instead of having. 152 00:18:28.290 --> 00:18:40.440 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: The images kind of displayed the way that JESSICA did it were to just source I assume we're just source per label so i'm guessing it's sourcing everything with the label artwork I don't know if that's right handed and. 153 00:18:40.770 --> 00:18:46.410 Helen Garbarino: She had no conversation, so I haven't Okay, she did, and that was kind of the issue right. 154 00:18:46.590 --> 00:18:59.430 Helen Garbarino: I did go in and some of the photos were actually faculty artwork so JESSICA had no knowledge on because I did have to go through, and ask Wayne we have some faculty that collect their own artwork so finding out what's is DAS and what is not. 155 00:18:59.760 --> 00:19:04.500 Helen Garbarino: was a challenge, so that whole page, I did not know how to fix it. 156 00:19:04.860 --> 00:19:10.170 Helen Garbarino: Essentially, she left it, as is but I agree, because even, in some of the cassettes I wouldn't have. 157 00:19:10.410 --> 00:19:19.560 Helen Garbarino: Put the cassettes out because they're just not visually impactful you have to kind of find the little gems within it there there aren't any artworks or anything to go with it so. 158 00:19:20.670 --> 00:19:24.960 Helen Garbarino: That was just a problem from the rush that we had. 159 00:19:26.250 --> 00:19:37.560 Helen Garbarino: And I did attempt to go put text in but I broke the page, so it was one of those things that I think I would rather scrap it and start to build it on my own, so that we know exactly what we're doing. 160 00:19:40.590 --> 00:19:56.340 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: right because I could see kind of down the line i'm having a list of folders like an online archive where people could click through and they could look at work by desk faculty for example, could be another one could be one of the categories another could be. 161 00:19:58.890 --> 00:20:06.030 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: Certain collection certain people's connections, like the curtis collection and that one does seem to be the one that, as you say, is like most. 162 00:20:06.360 --> 00:20:16.980 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: Is has already been curated it I see there's like included amongst these images is the desk what's his collection description and the biography of curtis and etc so. 163 00:20:17.970 --> 00:20:25.500 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: As for the others it's also like it's like a mix of different pieces of often and other things that. 164 00:20:26.010 --> 00:20:37.200 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: might be considered often certain contexts might be considered to have other meanings and other contexts, as is the case with the ooma, for example, so yeah I think I tend to agree with you Helen. 165 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:38.670 Wayne High: yeah. 166 00:20:40.290 --> 00:20:42.810 Wayne High: Tara you hit what I was thinking of. 167 00:20:43.950 --> 00:20:46.320 Wayne High: And that is that some of it we might. 168 00:20:47.520 --> 00:20:53.160 Wayne High: We see it as art, some of it might be considered objects or implements. 169 00:20:54.600 --> 00:21:06.810 Wayne High: In addition, so categories such as that perhaps within that we may want to do a little bit of parsing to better identify and that may also help us with. 170 00:21:08.940 --> 00:21:10.920 Wayne High: The generation of context as well. 171 00:21:15.270 --> 00:21:19.380 Matthew J Countryman: So I actually so here's what I think i'm. 172 00:21:21.990 --> 00:21:27.870 Matthew J Countryman: I think that the priority has to should not be speed, it should be proper contextualization. 173 00:21:29.490 --> 00:21:30.990 Matthew J Countryman: And so that if we're. 174 00:21:32.310 --> 00:21:43.950 Matthew J Countryman: Close to be able to do that, or maybe at the point where we can do that effectively with the curtis collection, then that start there and let's you know I think we need is. 175 00:21:45.450 --> 00:21:46.410 Matthew J Countryman: To. 176 00:21:48.150 --> 00:21:58.080 Matthew J Countryman: create a excellent explanatory framework that people see when they click on it that work that satisfactory and so maybe what I would suggest is. 177 00:21:59.670 --> 00:22:11.100 Matthew J Countryman: If Helen if you're willing to take on for that particular one the lead on putting together a draft sort of framing language that people would see when they click on it, that we can once we have approved that we can go with that. 178 00:22:12.330 --> 00:22:16.890 Helen Garbarino: it's best to because she did his most recent exhibit so I feel like she probably has. 179 00:22:17.250 --> 00:22:25.680 Matthew J Countryman: Perfect perfect and what I would like, but I would say about the rest of it is the goal should be to get it all, as much of it as we deem appropriate. 180 00:22:26.220 --> 00:22:39.240 Matthew J Countryman: up as as we can, but that's the priority has to be a proper exploit explanatory framework that not only addresses its provenance how you know it's where that i've stolen from comfort because it's so helpful. 181 00:22:40.380 --> 00:22:47.010 Matthew J Countryman: It tells us where it came from how we came to own it why we own it all that, but also what it is. 182 00:22:47.070 --> 00:22:50.400 Matthew J Countryman: Right, so that you do that's my concern is if someone's you could say. 183 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:56.190 Matthew J Countryman: Okay, fine I know this is the curse collection, but what the hell is this thing at the bottom of the page right so there's just all. 184 00:22:56.550 --> 00:22:57.000 Matthew J Countryman: These other. 185 00:22:57.960 --> 00:22:58.470 Matthew J Countryman: i'm sorry. 186 00:22:58.590 --> 00:23:05.460 Helen Garbarino: I know Ray worked on those images is is he had a point where I could maybe tap on him for some of the explanation. 187 00:23:06.510 --> 00:23:07.110 Matthew J Countryman: i'm. 188 00:23:09.600 --> 00:23:15.600 Matthew J Countryman: If you know if you have specific questions do you think he getting into with once you let me know what those are and then we'll go from there. 189 00:23:15.780 --> 00:23:16.920 Matthew J Countryman: I suspect, yes. 190 00:23:16.950 --> 00:23:22.350 Matthew J Countryman: I think he's very enthusiastic to help with the website, you know the sense of. 191 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:36.240 Matthew J Countryman: of your you know reticence on his part, has more to do with the gallery itself exhibits, then it has to do with the website, so I think there's probably no i'm. 192 00:23:37.080 --> 00:23:49.320 Matthew J Countryman: No problem asking for his help before I he and i've had a longer conversation, though I would at least like to know what what's going to him before we do that, which is talking on the 12th so that's only 10 days so it's not a huge amount of time. 193 00:23:49.740 --> 00:23:55.200 Helen Garbarino: Of course I just know he did he helped with the reproductions that we currently have, so I felt like he might know some of. 194 00:23:55.470 --> 00:23:57.930 Matthew J Countryman: You know, again I think if there's specific questions for him. 195 00:23:58.470 --> 00:24:03.750 Helen Garbarino: I would be the only one is the process of the reproduction, because I don't I don't have that knowledge, but I have. 196 00:24:03.780 --> 00:24:05.460 Helen Garbarino: The bios and a lot of other pieces. 197 00:24:05.820 --> 00:24:09.960 Matthew J Countryman: I see we get when you're ready to ask them a question just run it by me first and then we'll go with it. 198 00:24:16.470 --> 00:24:16.830 Matthew J Countryman: You know. 199 00:24:16.860 --> 00:24:18.180 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: From the sorry. 200 00:24:19.050 --> 00:24:30.570 Matthew J Countryman: Again, just to emphasize to that I think we're you know, on the one hand, we want the goal has to be to get everything up in front of people, but we want to do it in a way that clarity or people understand what they're looking at red car. 201 00:24:32.220 --> 00:24:39.210 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: yeah just another one that I was thinking could could already go up is um there's that artwork of the kind of cast building. 202 00:24:39.900 --> 00:24:53.640 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: And, with a little description of that and I know I think, maybe you guys have used some of that in some of the other like header images and stuff but I mean that's a cool and it's emblematic of of how casts again and it's pretty straightforward. 203 00:24:56.070 --> 00:25:05.670 Matthew J Countryman: Great and that will be actually great to link to once that was up, then you could be a link to the podcast that will upload it right, because that talks about that period um so. 204 00:25:10.320 --> 00:25:13.770 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: yeah I was just looking it's also cool image for the documentary that we could. 205 00:25:14.700 --> 00:25:15.420 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: Put in so. 206 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:22.500 Stephen M Ward: Are you talking about the painting about this one yeah. 207 00:25:22.860 --> 00:25:23.850 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: The painting of the House. 208 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.870 Matthew J Countryman: You know the other thing i'm looking at here is the is the collection of record albums. 209 00:25:47.190 --> 00:25:55.230 Matthew J Countryman: um, which is another place where I mean it's, this is not it's fine to just leave it as is for now, but at some point you'd want to have an explanation of what. 210 00:25:56.040 --> 00:26:04.110 Matthew J Countryman: What is this, and why is it here, and you know it's simply to let people know look there's these things here that you might if you have some use for. 211 00:26:04.740 --> 00:26:12.480 Matthew J Countryman: Research from a research or teaching perspective, you can find you know we have access to this material and that's a perfectly reasonable reason to have it posted and visible. 212 00:26:16.410 --> 00:26:21.120 Matthew J Countryman: You know, even if we don't have a clear explanation for why we have that makes record albums in our basement. 213 00:26:22.260 --> 00:26:22.800 Matthew J Countryman: So. 214 00:26:28.830 --> 00:26:34.980 Wayne High: It seems like a lot of records, but we really returned the lion's share back to the donor so. 215 00:26:36.030 --> 00:26:37.530 Wayne High: occurred on that curtis. 216 00:26:38.850 --> 00:26:57.450 Wayne High: Dr Stan differ and the Read collections both went to Dr stand for when Maxwell Read said I turned my stuff over to you, Jim so that was about a truckload of stuff left so we would have had even more. 217 00:27:00.990 --> 00:27:09.330 Tara Mondesi Weinberg: With those records, with a form part of the story of the gas mixtape got to hear, and I think Stephen will you, you had some involvement with that as well. 218 00:27:10.890 --> 00:27:11.610 Wayne High: Some. 219 00:27:11.910 --> 00:27:13.200 Stephen M Ward: Second, to hear. 220 00:27:15.030 --> 00:27:16.290 Wayne High: Some records may have. 221 00:27:16.290 --> 00:27:25.320 Wayne High: been duplicates because some of the collection, that is, they are now we're donations from Julius as well. 222 00:27:28.620 --> 00:27:32.970 Matthew J Countryman: And this is a lot of jazz, which is a little bit different than what to hear was talking about. 223 00:27:36.390 --> 00:27:42.810 Wayne High: All genres of music that had been captured between the Read collection and the standard for collection. 224 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.090 Wayne High: That was a call from nisha so i'll have to talk with her after this meeting. 225 00:27:50.100 --> 00:27:57.870 Wayne High: she's probably looking for i'll give her a heads up are about where your we intend to relocate, but she should still have access. 226 00:27:59.850 --> 00:28:00.540 Okay cool. 227 00:28:09.330 --> 00:28:10.110 Matthew J Countryman: Any other. 228 00:28:22.470 --> 00:28:23.520 Matthew J Countryman: updates for us today. 229 00:28:29.070 --> 00:28:30.960 Matthew J Countryman: Okay well seems like we're. 230 00:28:32.130 --> 00:28:34.680 Matthew J Countryman: All set to move forward i'm. 231 00:28:36.510 --> 00:28:37.800 Matthew J Countryman: On various things so. 232 00:28:38.850 --> 00:28:39.360 Matthew J Countryman: Thank you. 233 00:28:43.020 --> 00:28:45.270 Matthew J Countryman: Helen and when can you hang on for a second yeah. 234 00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:48.000 Stephen M Ward: Thanks bye everybody.